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: Okay. I can see what your saying. At the same time, I was trying to fix up the sentence you put in that is contradictory to what you've just said above. In your sentence you said something about the Catholic church recognizing some people outside the Catholic church to be part of the invisible church - or at least that is what it seemed to be saying. Perhaps we should just simplify the sentence for the time being to "Different denominations have slightly different understandings of the meanings of visible church and invisible church." We could start two new articles titled "Visible church" and "Invisible church" and expand in that. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 14:11, 23 July 2008 (PDT)
: I'm looking at your sentence and wondering if the confusion is simply an English thing. You wrote: "In roman catholic doctrine the invisible and the visible church are identified although it is admitted that elements of the invisible church are present outside the visible (i.e. the Catholic) church." Did you mean "In Roman Catholic Doctrine the invisible and visible church are mostly considered identical although there is recognition that some elements of the invisible church can be present outside the visible (i.e. Roman Catholic) church." - Is that what you meant? --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 14:14, 23 July 2008 (PDT)
