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: Yep, I see the contradiction. It's tricky to word well isn't it. I've tried rewording it so that it doesn't contradict and makes sense. Thanks. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham grove]] 14:02, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
::Absolutely tricky. It is even more tricky to avoid the justification debate at that point and leave the article open to both sides. The current version is fine, I think. --[[User:Benedikt|Benedikt]] 14:08, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
