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{{==General comments}}  ''See also [[Is baptism necessary for salvation: Comments and opinions]]''  ----==
Baptism is, in the eyes of many denominations, the rite of 'entry into the Church'. Many churches practise infant baptism, in which the children of Christian parents are received into the Church on the basis of the overwhelming grace of God and the promises of the parents that the child will be nurtured in the Christian faith. Other churches reject this practice, viewing Baptism as a public declaration of someone's faith. In either case, the context of baptism is always faith.
: If we have been united with Him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. For we know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin -- because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
: <i>[[Romans6]] 6: 3-7 (NIV)</i>
Baptism, therefore, can be said to be the public demonstration of a private commitment to God.
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==Views on the necessity of baptism for salvation==
 
The simple answer to this question is yes. You can read our Lord's exhortation concerning baptism in Matthew 28:19-20 and Mark 16:16. Acts 2:38 is just one example of baptism being referred to as necessary for the forgiveness of sins. I hope this helps you! God Bless you. --Anthony 00:15, 31 December 2005 (EST)
Return You might want to check out [http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:gotquestions.org/baptism-salvation.html Is baptism required for salvation?] See also the relevent section in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism the Wikipedia article on Baptism]. -- Phillip  ----  I disagree with the above. The simple answer is '''no'''. The verses that were given do not support in any way the idea that baptism is needed for salvation. Think of the thief on the cross as an example. He was already on the cross and was unable to be baptized before death, and yet he received salvation. Try this... [http://christiananswers.net/q-comfort/water-baptism.html Is water baptism necessary for salvation?]. Below is a quote from this site. <blockquote>''...adding any other requirement to salvation by grace becomes "works" in disguise.<br />Even though numerous Scriptures speak of the importance of water baptism, adding anything to the work of the cross demeans the sacrifice of the Savior. It implies that His finished work wasn’t enough. But the Bible makes clear that we are saved by grace, and grace alone,<br />"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."<br />--Ephesians 2:8-9''</blockquote>  ----  I also think the answer is no. Baptism is something that is good and right for a person to do when he becomes a Christian, but it is a outward sign and public declaration of ones Christian faith, and does not itself have special requirement or power for salvation. Of course, I recognize many Christians would disagree with me - perhaps the vast majority of Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, and probably a lot of Lutheran and Anglican Christians also.  ----  '''Add comment here''' {{returnto}} [[Baptism]] contents page
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