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We, the Wikipedia/WikiChristian Bible people translate/paraphrase the N.T. within the Weymouth tradition. I set the rules with the first two chapters of the Gospel of John and we see what develops as each verse starting with John 2:23 is up for edit. Unlock the secret, possibly, reverent thinking, definitely. THE RULES: Eliminate the seeming anti-semitism — appears to be regional strife — that is, Galilean against Judean supremacy. This requires [http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/johnpap.html Judean(s)] for Jew(s). Racial epithets invariably are harsh sounds like the N word, Jew (boy), Wop, Slob, or Chink. "Jews" is emblematic, why not the more historically sound and melodic, Jew-dee-ans? There are 101 believes in John (KJV). Retain "believe" instead of Weymouth's "trust," "regards," or "convinced." The watchword could be I AM [That I Am] He, rather blasphemous in that day. Order of Gospels should be JOHN, MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, and ACTS. What better in the beginning than "In the beginning?" The Catholic Encyclopedia says John had sometimes been first in order in earlier times because of the surety of authorship (or statement of eye-witness account). The Epistles of Paul in historical order, is there a split Timothy movement, there is an outline in Weymouth? Make St. John, "the greatest marvel of all the world's literature," more literary and the most important letters in history more historical, if it happens, this would be a testament to the communion of minds available here and, come on, your particular verse may live forever. Change British spelling and Elizabethan phraseology of Weymouth (sometimes all that is required). Highlight Aramaic origin (at least once). Explain John 7:53, make consistent figures of speech and capitalization throughout, i.e. Life of the Ages (3rd edition Weymouth) = eternal Life (5th edition). I love John's theology, although his discourses are somewhat repetitious. Matthew, Mark and Luke are open source, you can discuss Alpha and Omega till Kingdom come and, wala, Wikibook? Gender neutral when possible. John is the Book of Signs, use "signs" for quoting that word when spoken and substitute, miracles, for the running commentary. Plan to reconstruct an icon "the truth" in Greek of the P52 fragment as the ultimate visual image of the earliest New Testament manuscript. Each new verse will follow Weymouth 5th edition, minor changes have already been made with problem words for the sake of consistency. Bracketed [text] is termed explanatory apposition or inline footnote, could be read not said. Need only three such notes in the Gospel of John, initiate the ultimate Word play, add a touch of the miraculous, and send everybody home. John as a Gospel evidences considerable play on words, punning, and irony, such irony they say, that the "very Christ" (7:26) is proclaiming the Word all about with total impunity.

You know, the more common place to put this stuff is in your User Page, rather than your talk page. I'd move it for you, but you'd probably get mad. [[User:64.198.97.66|64.198.97.66]] 19:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I put the Greek from K.C. Hanson translation in Word, (Note: no Greek characters in WikiChristian software) cannot paste to wiki. Will keep working on it and post it to the Image_talk whenever. Anyway, what symbolism, "The Truth" turned out to be a GIF from God. [[User:Athrash|[[User:Athrash|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &#45; [[User:Athrash|Athrash]] | [[User_talk:Athrash|<small>{Talk)</small>]] ]] 19:09, 20 Apr 2005 (PDT)

Why change the verse?

example &mdash; 2:23 Judeans do sometimes designate their celebrations as Festivals. Suggest return to original "Feast" and maybe "witnessing" instead of watching miracles. Passover revolves around the food or festive meal, others could be, for example, Celebration of Tabernacles.

[[User:Athrash|Athrash]] 05:58, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[[Image:verso250.gif|right|thumb|Reconstructing "THE TRUTH" with P52 Greek Fragment of John 18:37]]

1 In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

4 In Him was Life and that Life was the Light of the entire human race;

5 for even as the Light shines on in darkness, the darkness has never overtaken it.

10 He was in the world; He made the world, yet, the world did not know Him.

11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him,

13 who are not born of blood, not born by physical urge, not born by the will of man, but are those reborn of God [read: the Word].

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This is He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks ahead of me because He was in all things before me.’ ”

20 He had to confess and did not deny the truth, but avowed, “I am not the Messiah.”

21 They said, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He responded, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, his voice gone, “No.”

23 “I am THE VOICE,” he replied, “OF ONE CRYING ALOUD IN THE DESERT, MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD” (Isa. 40:3).

25 And demanded of him, “Why do you baptize, then, if you are not the Messiah or Elijah or the Prophet?”

30 "This is He of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man ranking ahead of me for He was in all things before me.'

31 Even if, at first, I did not recognize Him, my purpose in coming was to baptize in water so that He might be revealed to Israel."

37 After hearing this, the two disciples followed Jesus.

39 He said to them, "Come and see." They went and saw where he stayed and remained there the rest of the day (for it was about four o'clock in the afternoon).

40 One of the two who followed Jesus after John spoke of the Lamb of God was Andrew, the brother of Simon.

41 Soon after the meeting with Jesus, Andrew found Simon and told him, "We have found the Messiah" (which is to say, the Christ);

45 Philip, in turn, found Nathana-el, and told him, "We have found him, of whom Moses and the Prophets wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph."

48 Nathana-el asked, "How do you know me?" Jesus answered, "Even before Philip sought you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you."

49 Nathana-el said, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

1 Two days later there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there.

4 Jesus said, "Dear woman, what is it to you or to me. My hour has not yet come."

5 His mother instructed the servants, "Whatever He says, do it."

8 Then He said, "Now, take a portion to the table-master." And they did.

9 When the master had tasted the water made wine without knowing the source, (albeit, the servants knew), he called the bridegroom:

12 After Cana He went down to Capernaum with His mother and brothers, and His disciples; and they spent a few days there.

13 Just about this time, the yearly Judean Passover was approaching and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

16 Then, He said to those who sold doves, "Take these things away. Do not make My Father's house, a house of merchandise."

17 And His disciples remembered that it was written, “ZEAL FOR GOD'S HOUSE WILL CONSUME ME” (Ps. 69:9).

20 The hierarchs replied, "Forty-six years was this temple in building, and you will rebuild it in three days?"

21 Though, here, He spoke of the temple of His body.

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