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:::: That'll be very sad if Obama does continue the normalization of abortion and homosexuality. Same thing is happening here, and also by leaders who consider themselves Christian. Sin seems to have dipped off the radar in many senses. But, luckily we're not ultimately called to fight culture that embraces sin; rather we're called to proclaim the good news and let God change the hearts of those who are seeking him. Or at least, that's how I see it. --[[User:Graham grove|Graham]] 03:41, 2 November 2008 (PST)
::::: Yeah, I don't read anything in the Bible about "winning the culture" for Christ, only to hold back sin as much as possible. In the main, I fear the trend, because it's never enough to simply ''allow'' sin: those who are doing it want praise and acclaim from men so they can feel OK about doing what they inwardly know to be wrong. Case in point, gay marriage proponents are never satisfied with merely making it the law of the land. In California, a physician lost his license because he "refused to provide medical treatment" to a lesbian. Since that is how the media is reporting it, you might think he didn't do CPR because the patient was gay; ''he asked not to do IV fertilization on religious grounds'', unaware that she was a lesbian merely thinking her to be unmarried. As an M.D. I'm sure you can appreciate that. I think our children are going to have a much easier time distinguishing between the "Christian Culture" of the West and real Christianity than even we do! --[[User:Aquatiki|Aquatiki]] 03:59, 2 November 2008 (PST)